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Old 20 May 2005, 07:54   #21
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Originally Posted by herbert:
valeu, valeu.
n-ai tu instrument (ar) pentru Kubrick.
Taci dracu' mai amatorule. Amaratule. Aceeasi intrebare ca si cea pusa tovarasului tau scrib : ceva despre Kubrick ? Treci in clubul tau select ! :sick:
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Old 21 May 2005, 12:00   #22
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cineva spunea, totusi (ca tot veni vb de 'eraserhead' s.a.), ca stanley kubrick n-a invatat nimic. uitandu-se pe lista filmelor sale preferate, cu 'i vitelloni' pe primul loc.
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Old 21 May 2005, 12:03   #23
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Originally Posted by notorious:
'i vitelloni' pe primul loc.
Acel cineva (cine-o fi oare ?) mananca carnati de la "angst" .
Intr-unul din multele topuri de pe cinemagia, filmul sus amintit, figura si la mine pe locul 1.
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Originally Posted by notorious:
cineva spunea, totusi (ca tot veni vb de 'eraserhead' s.a.), ca stanley kubrick n-a invatat nimic. uitandu-se pe lista filmelor sale preferate, cu 'i vitelloni' pe primul loc.
I don't get it... Topul ala era dat in '63 si, totusi, erau si alte titluri pe acolo (v. "City Lights", "Citizen Kane", "Wild Strawberries" - !!!)
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Old 31 May 2005, 13:45   #25
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Pe nesimtite, la TVR 1 a inceput o (speram nu foarte scurta) serie Kubrick. Saptamana trecuta a fost "The Shining" (sorry daca l-ati ratat), iar vinerea asta (la 23:30), "Barry Lyndon".
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Originally Posted by M0n0:
A Clockwork Orange - 8.50/10 a deeply distrubing and genial film...daca asta e cel mai bun Kubrick cam imi dau seama ce fel de om e...e un fel de om care gaseste arta in nuditate violenta si chiar violentza...conotatii sexuale la fiecare scena...daca nu la personaje atunci cu siguranta in arta din acea camera (tablouri si sculpturi)...huliganul psihopat a fost jucat absolut perfect de un Malcolm McDowell tanar...
Pana aici e bine...


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dar totusi am o intrebare...de ce filmul se cheama A Clockwork Orange...care e Clockwork-ul si ce e portocaliu? sau na...aveti voi o definite clara...
"A Clockwork Orange" este titlul romanului lui Burgess dupa care este bazat filmul... Se face un joc in jurul cuvantului ourang (nu sunt sigur de originea lui), care inseamna om. El este transformat in 'orange' (portocala). Deci titlul este, de fapt, "Un om mecanic", exact ceea ce devine Alex dupa tratamentul Ludovico: un robot programat sa raspunda in functie de anumiti stimuli, lipsit de liberul arbitru.

P.S.: Am auzit de cateva ori remarca cum ca filmul creeaza o atmosfera confuza, iar Kubrick foloseste astfel culorile incat sa lase impresia de portocaliu in mintea privitorului, fara ca portocaliul sa fie culoarea dominanta... Nu este o teorie care sa-mi placa, dar asa... ca o curiozitate...


Originally Posted by M0n0:
si totusi filmul a avut un aer absolut ciudat...parca era intr-un univers paralel...cu locuri asemanatoare, dar cu imbracaminte absolut ridicole...interesant si limbajul (pur englez cu arhaismele lor specifice)...
Aici nu sunt chiar de acord... Nu stiu cum sa explic...
Ma rog... Cartea explica mai bine unele lucruri - ar fi bine sa o citesti. Si asculta si niste Beethoven!
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Old 30 Aug 2005, 22:51   #27
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in legatura cu universul vizual:

Kubrick afirma intr-un interviu ca, atunci cand faci un film, trebuie sa fii interesant din punct de vedere vizual (si narativ si actoricesc). Orice idee/actiune trebuie sa sustina tema, story-ul, si scenele din film, dar, in acelasi timp, sa faci ca totul sa arate interesant pentru privitor.

Sunt sigur ca, pentru Stanley, a face ceva sa arate interesant nu insemna a atrage atentia intr-un mod gratuit...pentru el arta recrea viata, iar orice opera de arta trebuie sa fie interesanta.
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Old 30 Aug 2005, 23:39   #28
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In primul rand...mersi pentru explicatie
Originally Posted by MinRep:
Si asculta si niste Beethoven!
I already am...in special the ninth...
chiar ca e oribil sa fi torturat de ceva asa de superb...
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Old 31 Aug 2005, 15:02   #29
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Jocul de cuvinte si idei mai are si urmätoarea laturä:
clockwork ourang = om mecanic (cum spunea MinRep)
clockwork orange = cutie muzicalä cu cheitä, în formä de portocalä (erau la modä când a scris Burgess cartea)

ourang outan = omul copacilor (Borneo); de unde "urangutan"

Pe la 14 ani, dupä ce a väzut a doua oarä "Portocala..." (prima fusese la 4 ani), fi-miu a murmurat: "Niciodatä n-am sä mai pot asculta a IX-a cu sufletul împäcat..."
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Originally Posted by Pitbull:
clockwork orange = cutie muzicalä cu cheitä, în formä de portocalä (erau la modä când a scris Burgess cartea)
Hmm... Asta nu stiam... :oops: Thanx!


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Sunt sigur ca, pentru Stanley, a face ceva sa arate interesant nu insemna a atrage atentia intr-un mod gratuit...pentru el arta recrea viata, iar orice opera de arta trebuie sa fie interesanta.
Corect! Sunt intru totul de acord. Foarte buna remarca...
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Recomand celor interesati de Kubrick si ale lui aberatii culturale,documentarul Stanley Kubrick - A Life in Pictures.
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Originally Posted by Serghei:
Recomand celor interesati de Kubrick si ale lui aberatii culturale,documentarul Stanley Kubrick - A Life in Pictures.

aberatii culturale? :?
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Originally Posted by Cinemania:
Originally Posted by Serghei:
Recomand celor interesati de Kubrick si ale lui aberatii culturale,documentarul Stanley Kubrick - A Life in Pictures.

aberatii culturale? :?
Yeah, me too... :huh:



Edit: anywho, "A Life in Pictures" e foarte reusit. Poate ca un pic ii cam sug toti puIa lui Kubrick post-mortem (v. Shelley Duvall), dar comentariile despre viata sa, despre realizarea filmelor si diferitele aprecieri critice (v. Richard Schickel) sunt de mare efect. In plus - printre multi altii - Sidney Pollack, Woody Allen, Malcolm McDowell, Jack Nicholson, Martin Scorsese si acum mult regretatul Peter Ustinov isi aduc aportul.
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Originally Posted by Cinemania:
Originally Posted by Serghei:
Recomand celor interesati de Kubrick si ale lui aberatii culturale,documentarul Stanley Kubrick - A Life in Pictures.

aberatii culturale? :?

88 takes on a "walking scene" for The Shining

On another note:

Titlul cartii vine de la o expresie in dialectul cockney "as queer as clockwork orange"...hence the makeup,fake eyelashes etc.

P.S.Interpretarea cum ca orange ar fi un derivat din alta limba se refera la orang(om)-care e intr-o limba vorbita in Malaesia si prin insulele dinprejur.
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