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Old 29 Mar 2012, 08:39   #201
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Originally Posted by Malombra:
iar cheers? no, mersi, faza cu cinemaul contemplativ şi clovnul ăla already made my day.
De ce?
Ai vazut filmul respectiv?
Scena respectiva?
Nu-i contemplativitate de fel acolo? Sau e, dar de calitate modesta? Expliciteaza-te pls.
Vrei sa-mi dai niste exemple de capsule de cinema contemplativ (e ceva-n neregula cu expresia cumva?) care-ti plac tie mult de tot? Incearca sa le iei in considerare incepand de la limita superioara a mainstream-ului.

Nu sunt confruntantional. Nu vreau sa ma cert sau sa-ti demonstrez ca am dreptate. Vreau sa-ti inteleg punctul de vedere. Vrei sa vorbim?

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Ba da.

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Old 29 Mar 2012, 14:02   #202
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Jerome: I thought to myself that every woman has her most vulnerable point. For some, it's the nape of the neck, the waist, the hands. For Claire, in that position, in that light, it was her knee. It was the magnetic pole of my desire, the precise point where, if I could pursue this desire, I'd have placed my hand. And right there is where her boyfriend had his hand. In all his innocence and insipidness. That hand was above all insipid, and that shocked me.

Aurora: It's very simple. Place your hand on her knee. That will exorcise the desire.

Jerome: It's not simple at all. That's the hardest thing to do. A caress has to be accepted. It would be easier to seduce her.
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Old 29 Mar 2012, 21:22   #203
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 00:29   #204
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p[i, Federico, chestia care mi-a răsturnat metafizicul pe dos la afirmaţia ta a fost că dacă X (da, am fost la film, la cinema încă, dar nu mă întreba nimic, că nu-mi aduc aminte decît că a fost inutil de îmbîrligat şi clovnul dă foc la mălai la sfîrşit, nu?) ar fi lăsat imaginea aia să curgă, în ralanti probabil, adică slow motion asigurat tehnic, ar fi fost o splendidă bucată de CC. or CC nu e CC că se bazează pe încetineală realizată prin trucuri mecanice, ci pentru că are ritmul ş pulsul unei contemplări quasi-naturale.
filmele de săptămîna asta Ossos - Kasaba nu ştiu, dar văzînd alte filme de la ceylan, cred că şi el - sunt CC, imho. Werckmeister Harmonies ar fi un alt exemplu. nu ştiu om căruia să nu-i fi plăcut.

ceva nu neapărat edificator aici , la comentarii http://unspokencinema.blogspot.com/2...line-2008.html
eu oricum am o poziţie a-teoretică, merg mai mult pe instinct.
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Old 30 Mar 2012, 11:14   #205
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Si eu vorbesc tot pornind de la subiectivitatea propriilor mele experiente si perceptii, nu din carti. Infortunamente, nu-s familiarizat cu cinema-ul lui Ceylan sau al celorlalte titluri pomenite de tine (desi am intrat pe ultima suta de metri in pregatirile pentru WH - luna asta il incoltesc candva) asa ca am ratat o sansa palpabila de a intelege fara prea multe echivocuri ce ai tu-n minte. Ritmul si pulsul unei contemplari quasi-naturale nu m-ajuta foarte tare. Anyway, nu stiu daca incetinitorul e un sinequanon-ism (nici macar in ce priveste gusturile mele) pentru ca o scena care-l contine sa se califice ca CC, dar I do think ca conteaza enorm, ca are o influenta uriasa. Pentru ca pentru mine CC, luat la scara micro, ca scena izolata, si nu ca film in tot ansamblul lui, e sinonim cu muzica si poezia. Care basically inseamna ritm. Si nimic nu cred ca se compara cu fluiditatea continutului cognitiv al unui tablou in miscare pe care o aduce ralenti-ul. Poezia cinematografica (sau CC-ul) presupune, dpmdv, dictatura simturilor si a intuitiei asupra intelectului. Un moment de natura subiectului pe care-l discutam noi acum asa opereaza, gratie informativitatii narative precare pe care-o furnizeaza -- atat, prin definitie, din cauza efectului ralenti-ului care dilata timpul si dilueaza, deci, densitatea informatiei... cat si prin alegera strategica a obiectului de contemplat.
BTW, scena din TDK , desi eu mi-o aminteam ca atare, am revazut-o acum pe YT si spre stupefactia mea, nici nu cred ca e trasa in slow-mo. Nah. Dar in cazul asta se disociaza de obiectul pentru care argumentam eu. Retrag termenul de genialitatea potentiala. Sau as mai putea sa-i injumatatesc potentialitatea. Genialitatea potentiala potentiala.
PS: Prologurile ultimeleor doua filme ale lui LvT iti par contemplative (datorita r-ului)?

(o sa plonjez si-n link-ul ala dar mai tarziu)
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Old 31 Mar 2012, 12:41   #208
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@Fed: deci la dumneaei te uiti cu privirea aia dubios de perversa

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Old 31 Mar 2012, 20:50   #211
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Originally Posted by Pepper:
@Fed: deci la dumneaei te uiti cu privirea aia dubios de perversa
Perversa si dubioasa poate e domnisoara. Sau tu. Prejudecioaso.



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Old 01 Apr 2012, 02:03   #213
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charles, daca nu scriai la sfirsit titlul, ziceam: stiu eu, stiu eu

Ca sa fiu on topic pun si eu 2 imagini,



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Old 02 Apr 2012, 07:00   #217
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Da, charles, da, despre asta e vorba. Prima imi place cel mai mult.

Propun in continuare sa ne diminutivam aportul la cate o singura fotografie, fiindca cortegille de imagini din ultimul timp devin cam obositoare, si ameninta si diluarea calitatii medii a contributiei unui user.

My photo of the day:
(ador aspectul impecabil si imaculat al compozitiei)

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My photo of the day:

Asta e din joc (?)


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Originally Posted by omudindulap:


Asta e din joc (?)

Bravo, ai trecut testul; vroiam sa vad daca esti atent.

No, really - habar n-aveam c-au facut si joc boschetarii. Se pare ca the real deal arata cam asa:



Verdictul meu ramane inca in picioare oricum.

Hai ca mai pun una daca tot am dat-o-n bara cu prima (sper ca asta e genuina):



As putea sa apelez la Matrix pan' la sfarsitul anului ca sa pun cate o poza geniala zilnic in topic.
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