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Old 09 Dec 2009, 11:55   #61
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chambord, ai dreptate

topul "oficial" va contine exclusiv filme lansate in2009 in Romania, cel aditional filmele din 2009 lansate oriunde, dar nu in Romania.

o sa fac sticky topicul
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 12:07   #62
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Cu un alt amendament, just in case - in cazul meu (Let the Right One in si The Hurt Locker) si al eventualilor fani Paranormal Activity, situatia e mai complicata, caci primele doua sunt filme din 2008 si cel de-al treilea din 2007. Doar ca au iesit in cinema de-abia in 2009. Pentru topul extern trebuie luat in calcul anul lansarii, nu anul productiei.
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 12:29   #63
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Topul "oficial":

1. The Wrestler (Darren Aronofsky)
2. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (David Fincher)
3. Public Enemies (Michael Mann)
4. The Strangers (Bryan Bertino)
5. Frost/Nixon (Ron Howard)
6. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino)
7. Drag Me to Hell (Sam Raimi)
8. Revolutionary Road (Sam Mendes)
9. Il y a longtemps que je t'aime (Philippe Claudel)
10. Gomorrah (Matteo Garrone)

Topul "neoficial":

1. Antichrist (Lars von Trier)
2. Paranormal Activity (Oren Peli)
3. The Limits of Control (Jim Jarmusch)
4. Moon (Duncan Jones)
5. Thirst (Chan-wook Park)

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Old 09 Dec 2009, 12:35   #64
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Originally Posted by Im.Kino:
Cu un alt amendament, just in case - in cazul meu (Let the Right One in si The Hurt Locker) si al eventualilor fani Paranormal Activity, situatia e mai complicata, caci primele doua sunt filme din 2008 si cel de-al treilea din 2007. Doar ca au iesit in cinema de-abia in 2009. Pentru topul extern trebuie luat in calcul anul lansarii, nu anul productiei.

Pentru "extern" luam in calcul anul premierei cinematografice (lansarii) = anul imdb. Am subliniat acum si in OP. Paranormal Activity a avut premiera in 2007 la Screamfest. Cred insa ca putem face o exceptie in cazul lui, daca doriti.

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Old 09 Dec 2009, 12:38   #65
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da, dar im.kino are dreptate, de exemplu paranormal activity are ca an al lansarii 2007

dar exceptiile de genul acesta sunt putine si putem trece usor peste ele
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 12:41   #66
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 12:42   #67
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Originally Posted by StefanDo:
da, dar im.kino are dreptate, de exemplu paranormal activity are ca an al lansarii 2007

dar exceptiile de genul acesta sunt putine si putem trece usor peste ele

PA a fost "lansat" in 2007 intr-un cadru relativ restrins (cu prilejul Screamfest-ului). Lansarea oficiala s-a produs anul asta.
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 13:04   #68
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eu zic ca daca filmul are lansari in 2009, in alte tari decat Romania, e inca de actualitate, si ar trebui acceptat in topul neoficial.
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 13:23   #69
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 13:30   #70
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Totusi nu prea e corect fata de filmele care nici nu vor avea premiera in Romania. Adica ele unde intra? La filme neoficiale in topul de pe 2009 si la filme oficiale in cel de pe 2010, chiar daca el a rulat numai in 2009 de exemplu? Vreau doar sa fim siguri ca si filmele care nu sunt vazute in cinematografele din Romania pot intra intr-un top oficial.
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 13:35   #71
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Stefan, mai bine faci un set de reguli, si le posteazi la inceput, si sterge toate mesajele care nu au top-uri in ele, ca asa umplem topicul asta cu discutii despre ce ar trebui sa scrie, si mai putin cu ce ar trebui sa scriem.
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 13:36   #72
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Liviu, ce vrei tu nu se poate.

In orice top oficial al unei tari intra strict ce a rulat in anul respectiv pe ecranele din tara respectiva (atentie, cu premiera oficiala, deci filmele din festivaluri nu intra in discutie). Unele din filmele din topul neoficial (vezi cazul meu, de exemplu) vor veni in Romania in 2010 si vor aparea, evident, in topul de final de an... la anu'. Celelate s-ar pierde complet daca n-ar fi acest top neoficial si mie, personal, nu-mi convine (mai ales ca la noi la cinema criteriul principal dupa care se-aduc filmele nu e cel calitativ). Singurul film cu adevarat problematic ar fi Avatar - dar cum topul asta poate fi facut pana in 15 ianuarie, doritorii vor fi vazut si Cameron-ul (personal am dubii c-ar putea detrona ceva la mine-n clasament).

Asadar - top oficial - filme cu premiera in Romania (in 2009)
Top neoficial - filme cu premiera mondiala in 2009

Explicatie - Hurt Locker, PA si Let the Right One in au avut premiera in alt an decat 2009, e adevarat. Dar toate aceste trei filme au intrat in discutia cinematografica universala de-abia in acest an. Prin urmare, toate trei vor ramane in memoria tuturor drept filme din 2009.

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Old 09 Dec 2009, 13:37   #73
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topul aditional contine filme din 2009 care nu se lanseaza sau nu s-au lansat inca in romania. ambele topuri sunt oficiale, dar numai unul va fi anuntat ca "cele mai bune 10 filme ale anului in viziunea forumistilor cinemagia"

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sincer sa fiu, precizarile lui chambord in primul post mi se par foarte clare
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 14:27   #74
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Numai oficialul - cu mentiunea cä am pierdut unele importante ("Gomorrah", "Antichrist"...), dupä câteva etape de selectii si permutäri, am rämas cu... o listä de care nu sunt tocmai multumit - spre final, a mers greu... mai bine aveam dreptul la 20, în ordine semnificativä):

1. "Politist, adj."
2. "Milk"
3. "Frost/Nixon"
4. "Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call, New Orleans"
5. "The Reader"
6. «Le Concert»
7. "Los ambrazos rotos"
8. "Up"

9. "Pescuit sportiv"
10. "Changeling"


Ca fapt divers - mi-au mai pläcut, da' n-au încäput (în ordine aleatoare):

"Cea mai fericita fata din lume"
"Brothers Bloom"
"Babylon A.D."

"Amintiri din Epoca de Aur 2 - Dragoste în timpul liber"
"Amintiri din Epoca de Aur 1 - Tovarasi, frumoasa e viata!"
"Duplicity"
"Ice Age 3"

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Old 09 Dec 2009, 14:28   #75
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Old 09 Dec 2009, 14:32   #76
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Dubla 1

Top premiere romanesti

1. Frost/Nixon (Ron Howard)
2. Politist, Adj. (Corneliu Porumboiu)
3. The Bad Lieutenant: Port Of Call - New Orleans (Werner Herzog)
4. Two Lovers (James Gray)
5. Revolutionary Road (Sam Mendes)
6. Le Silence de Lorna (Dardenne brothers)
7. Gomorrah (Matteo Garrone)
8. Up (Pete Docter, Bob Peterson)
9. Gran Torino (Clint Eastwood)
10. Valkyrie (Bryan Singer)


Top premiere mondiale


1. The Girlfriend Experience (Steven Soderbergh)
2. In The Loop (Armando Iannucci)
3. The Limits Of Control (Jim Jarmusch)
4. Where The Wild Things Are (Spike Jonze)
5. Un Prophète (Jacques Audiard)

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Old 09 Dec 2009, 14:36   #77
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Top 10 Premiere in Romania :


1.Ice.Age.3 (Carlos Saldanha)
2.The.Curious.Case.Of.Benjamin.Button (David Fincher)
3.Watchmen (Zack Snyder)
4.Transformers.2.Revenge.Of.The.Fallen (Michael Bay )
5.Up (Bob Petersen)
6.The.Hangover (Todd Philips)
7.X-men.Origins.Wolverine (Gavin Hood)
8.2012 (Rolland Emmerich )
9.G.I.Joe.The.Rise.Of.Cobra (Stephen Sommers )
10.Slumdog.Millionaire (Danny Boyle)


Cam asta ar fi.
Acum astept sa apara Avatarul lui Cameron care cred ca va intra in top 10 al meu
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Originally Posted by StefanDo:
e top sau lista?

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Originally Posted by Im.Kino:
La Cannes

im.kino esti critic sau glumeai ?
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