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Old 19 Sep 2003, 11:43   #1
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Idei nevalorificate la maxim...

Cautam un subiect interesant pe aici dar n-am prea gasit... Si atunci
mi-a venit in minte o problema pe care am intalnit-o la anumite filme.
Filme care au un subiect foarte interesant dar care nu este valorificat la
maxim. Un exemplu aici ar putea fi Insomnia, Gangs of New York sau un film care a fost aseara pe Pro regizat de Coppola cu R. Williams, imi scapa numele, dar este vorba de un copil care imbatraneste de 4 ori mai repede; Putea iesi ceva bun dar...
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Old 19 Sep 2003, 16:10   #2
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Uite un film la kre nu am prea intzeles sfarshitul ... Planet of the Apes cu Mark Whalberg ... deshi mi-am gasit o explicatzie: TEORIA QUANTICA A DEFORMARII TIMPULUI SI SPATZIULUI ... deci asta este sngura explicatzie ... el a revenit in furtuna aia shi a deformat timpul shi spatziul ...

Ashtept parerile voatre ...
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Old 19 Sep 2003, 16:47   #3
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Nu stiu de Planeta, adica remakul la maimute, dar nu m-a chiar "ingrijorat" sfarsitul.
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Old 21 Sep 2003, 15:10   #4
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Originally Posted by Gaandalf:
Uite un film la kre nu am prea intzeles sfarshitul ... Planet of the Apes cu Mark Whalberg ... deshi mi-am gasit o explicatzie: TEORIA QUANTICA A DEFORMARII TIMPULUI SI SPATZIULUI ... deci asta este sngura explicatzie ... el a revenit in furtuna aia shi a deformat timpul shi spatziul ...

Ashtept parerile voatre ...

Nu stiu daca ai vazut pimul film sau daca ai citit romanul lui Pierre Boule. Dar idea era ca astronautul face o calatorie de cateva mii/sute de ani pe o planeta odata colonizata de oameni, unde maimutele au evoluat si au insalbaticit, apoi luat stapanirea asupra oamenilor. Cand astronautul se intoarce pe Terra, calatoreste cam tot atatea mii/sute de ani, iar pe Planeta-Mama se intampla acelasi lucru ca si pe Planeta Maimutelor. Din pacate, Burton a schmbat atat de multe din roman - nu sunt sigur ca l-a inteles - incat nu mai are nici un sens. Iar teoria aia nu explica de ce s-a intamplat ce s-a intamplat.

P.S.: Si Ulysse era numele exploratorului. De ce oare? TIM BURTON sucks with "Planet Of The Apes"

P.S.II: Idei nevalorificate in: "Killing Me Softly", "Bruce Almighty", "The Hulk", "The Bad And The Beautiful" (desi mi-a placut), "The Quick And The Dead" etc.


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Old 21 Sep 2003, 16:11   #5
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Originally Posted by MinRep:
Originally Posted by Gaandalf:
Uite un film la kre nu am prea intzeles sfarshitul ... Planet of the Apes cu Mark Whalberg ... deshi mi-am gasit o explicatzie: TEORIA QUANTICA A DEFORMARII TIMPULUI SI SPATZIULUI ... deci asta este sngura explicatzie ... el a revenit in furtuna aia shi a deformat timpul shi spatziul ...

Ashtept parerile voatre ...

Nu stiu daca ai vazut pimul film sau daca ai citit romanul lui Pierre Boule. Dar idea era ca astronautul face o calatorie de cateva mii/sute de ani pe o planeta odata colonizata de oameni, unde maimutele au evoluat si au insalbaticit, apoi luat stapanirea asupra oamenilor. Cand astronautul se intoarce pe Terra, calatoreste cam tot atatea mii/sute de ani, iar pe Planeta-Mama se intampla acelasi lucru ca si pe Planeta Maimutelor. Din pacate, Burton a schmbat atat de multe din roman - nu sunt sigur ca l-a inteles - incat nu mai are nici un sens. Iar teoria aia nu explica de ce s-a intamplat ce s-a intamplat.

P.S.: Si Ulysse era numele exploratorului. De ce oare? TIM BURTON sucks with "Planet Of The Apes"

P.S.II: Idei nevalorificate in: "Killing Me Softly", "Bruce Almighty", "The Hulk", "The Bad And The Beautiful" (desi mi-a placut), "The Quick And The Dead" etc.


Signed... Rogue!



10x for the enlightment ... adevaru e .. k filmu nu e cine shtie ce ...da eram curios sa vad shi Je explicatzia ... thx! :wink:
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Old 21 Sep 2003, 16:17   #6
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Glad I could be of service, Gaaandalf! Iti recomand sa citesti cartea, pe bune! E reusita si o sa ai o mare surpriza in comparatie cu filmul!


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Old 25 Sep 2003, 11:03   #7
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De ce apare fatza lui Thade in locul lui Abraham Lincoln la sfarshitul filmului - k n-am nici cea mai vaga idee? A existat aceeashi istorie... man that suxx ass... i want 2 know!.... :evil:
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Pai nu e chestia ca ei au ajuns intr-o lume in care maimutele s-au dezvoltat in locul oameniilor? Adica practic maimutele=oamenii. Numai ca sunt maimute
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 15:13   #9
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Originally Posted by PoliFanAthic:
Pai nu e chestia ca ei au ajuns intr-o lume in care maimutele s-au dezvoltat in locul oameniilor? Adica practic maimutele=oamenii. Numai ca sunt maimute

sorry but u're not making any sense ...
adick Leo Davidson a ajuns pe planeta Pamant prima data shi dupa aia tot pe Pamant numai k la o distantza in timp foarte mare ? - i don't think so ... planeta maimutzelor - ai vazut ce orbita avea ? - avea mai multzi satelitzi ... so explain that...

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Old 25 Sep 2003, 18:56   #10
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A ajuns intr-o dimensiune paralela. In care maimutele erau ce sunt oamenii in "vremurile" noastre. Asta mi se pare ca ar explica aceasta dilema.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 19:17   #11
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Originally Posted by PoliFanAthic:
A ajuns intr-o dimensiune paralela. In care maimutele erau ce sunt oamenii in "vremurile" noastre. Asta mi se pare ca ar explica aceasta dilema.

Da ma te intzeleg ... da' faza este k MinRep a citit cartea shi a intzeles filmu' k-lumea ... shi de la el ashtept rezolvarea finalului ....
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Old 28 Sep 2003, 14:59   #13
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Finally!
Aici cred ca Buton a interpretat gresit cartea. Leo se intoarce pe Pamant, iar Planeta Maimutelor este o ALTA planeta. Problema este ca ni se spune ca Leo se intoarce din nou in timp, dupa ce a calatorit in viitor. Deci, care ar putea fi explicatia? M-am chinuit un pic, dar cred ca am descoperit raspunsul corect. Singurul mod in care maimutele ar putea sa fi ajuns pe Terra inapoi in timp este daca Thaddeus (parca asa in chema pe generalul rau, dar nu mia stiu), ar fi gasit o alta naveta spatiala la "KALIMA" si ar fi calatorit in timp pe Terra, unde ar fi reusit sa ridice maimutele impotriva oamenilor, sau sa schimbe intr-un anumit fel trecutul. Acesta este singura explicatie pe care filmul lui Burton ne-o ofera: Generalul a calatorit in timp precedent intoarcerii lui Leo si a schimbat traseul rasei umane pe Pamant.

In carte, nu exista nici general, nici furtuni spatiale cu posibilitati de calatorie in timp si nici atata politica ca in filmul lui Burton. Care, revenind, este destul de incoerent si, deci, nu atat de simplu cum pare la prima vedere. Dar tot slab, oricum.

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Old 29 Sep 2003, 11:15   #14
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Piratii din Caraibe prezinta o idee interesanta dar nevalorificata. In loc sa accentueze drama echipajului condamnat la nemurire, ei ne baga pe gat obosita aia de poveste amoroasa intre cei doi nesarati principali.
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tot de la cutiuta cu amintiri....

ultimul film pe care l-am vazut si care mi s-a parut ca ar fi avut totusi o idee misto dar rezultatul n-a fost pe masura, a fost Knowing. Filmul m-a tinut pana la un punct si dup-aia a devinit asa de aiuristic ca abia asteptam sa se termine.

Uitandu-ma insa si pe exmeplele date mai sus ma intreb daca posibilitatea de "ratare" apartine doar filmelor de actiune...
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Old 30 Jun 2009, 18:58   #16
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The Curious Case of Benjamin Button...
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Old 30 Jun 2009, 18:59   #17
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tot un film recent care imi vine in minte acuma e Blindness
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Old 30 Jun 2009, 19:18   #18
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Terminator 4-puteau sa scoata un film tare de tot
Transformers 1-la fel puteau sa il faca ca lumea in schimb a iesit o mizerie
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Speed 2 (90% nevalorificat)
Matrix Reloaded (50% nevalorificat)
Matrix Revolutions, (80% neval.)
Terminator 3, (70% neval.)
Terminator 4, (50% neval.),
300, (90% neval.)
Alexander, (80% neval.)
Babylon AD (60% neval.)
TDK (25% neval.)
FF 4 (50% neval.).
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Originally Posted by Neuptolem:
Speed 2 (90% nevalorificat)
Matrix Reloaded (50% nevalorificat)
Matrix Revolutions, (80% neval.)
Terminator 3, (70% neval.)
Terminator 4, (50% neval.),
300, (90% neval.)
Alexander, (80% neval.)
Babylon AD (60% neval.)
TDK (25% neval.)
FF 4 (50% neval.).
samd.


pe ce te bazezi cand scrii procentele astea?
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