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Old 03 Jan 2005, 16:52   #1
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TOP CINEMAGIA 2004 - Clasament final

Gata si clasamentul. Au fost luate in considerare numai filmele care au avut premiera romaneasca in 2004. Fara nici o exceptie. Cele lansate la festivaluri (eg: "2046") nu au intrat in calcule. Acolo unde ati introdus in topuri astfel de filme, tot ceea ce era dedesubt a urcat cu un loc. Acolo unde indecisii au pus 2 filme pe acelasi loc, am facut media celor doua pozitii din clasament, pe care am impartit-o celor doua filme. La fel am procedat si pt cei care au mentionat doar "Kill Bill".

Inca ceva: au fost 53 de topuri exprimate, un numar surprinzator de mare, de 3 ori mai mult ca anul trecut. Pt asta userii cinemagia merita felicitari

Deci.... dupa ce in 2002, a cistigat "Filantropica", iar in 2003 s-a impus "Cidade de Deus", anul 2004 aduce un nou invingator. Premiul forumistilor Cinemagia pentru cel mai bun film se acorda lui...

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"Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind"!


Iata si clasamentul final si complet:


1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - 421 puncte
2. Dogville - 401
3. 21 grams - 375
4. Kill Bill vol. 1 - 316
5. Lost in Translation - 271
6. Kill Bill vol. 2 - 229
7. Lord of the Rings 3 - 205
8. Elephant - 149
9. Big Fish - 143
10. Collateral - 124


11. The Village - 123
12. Mystic River - 106
13. The Incredibles - 85
14. The Terminal - 76
15. Spiderman 2 - 70
16. Good Bye Lenin - 68
17. Reconstruction - 68
18. Harry Potter 3 - 63
19. Apocalypse Now Redux - 51
20. Garden State - 45
21. The Last Samurai - 42
22. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind - 40
23. The Day After Tomorrow - 40
24. La Mala Educacion - 40
25. Les Invasions Barbares - 38
26. In America - 37
27. Bowling for Columbine - 35
28. House of Sand and Fog - 34
29. Love Actually - 33
30. Pieces of April - 33
31. Troy - 33
32. Bourne Supremacy - 27
33. Shrek 2 - 27
34. Zatoichi - 27
35. Son Frere - 22
36. It's All About Love - 20
37. Niki Ardelean - 20
38. American Splendor - 19
39. Fahrenheit 9/11 - 19
40. The Chronicles of Riddick - 18
41. Gothika - 17
42. The Punisher - 16
43. School of Rock - 16
44. Van Helsing - 16
45. Scurt circuit - 13
46. 50 First Dates - 12
47. I, Robot - 12
48. Cold Mountain - 10
49. Dawn of the Dead - 10
50. Ocean's Twelve - 10
51. Anaconda 2 - 8
52. The Ladykillers - 8
53. Passion of the Christ - 8
54. Rengeteg - 8
55. Thirteen - 8
56. AVP - 6
57. Love Me If You Dare - 6
58. Basic - 5
59. Brother Bear - 5
60. Secret Window - 5
61. Intermission - 4
62. Italiencele - 4
63. Stepford Wives - 4
64. Along Came Polly - 3
65. Cazul Furtwangler - 3
66. Milionari de weekend - 3
67. Wonderland - 3
68. The Butterfly Effect - 2
69. George and the Dragon - 2
70. Haute Tension - 2
71. Runaway Jury - 2
72. Shark Tale - 2
73. Hukkle - 1
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 16:56   #2
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in afa de 21 grame ma declar multumit
evident cel mai multumit de faptu ca lotr nue no1
in fine as vomita putin referitor la collateral da treaca d la mine
super ok topu
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 17:10   #3
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Yay... congrats Eternal sunshine!
Si desi ustura nitel ca Spidey nu se afla in top 10 ma bucur ca s-a plasat mai bine decat Harry Potter.
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 17:21   #4
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Kill Bill fightin!~

Surprinzator ca Eternal... a iesit pe primul loc, m-a surprins placut
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 17:30   #5
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Mai mai ca mi-e ciuda ca nu am votat
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 17:41   #6
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topul cinemagia 2004 sau cum a ajuns palme d'or-ul sa-i miroase basinile lui gandalf
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mda. Eternul JEG. cînd o sã am chef, cred cã o sã fac o numãrãtoare paralelã. mie îmi miroase a fraudã electoralã. Sunt siktirit.
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 18:47   #8
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ei cacat! cum a iesit mah Eternalu' pe primul loc. ... chiar ca pute a frauda...hmmm...
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 19:15   #9
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Re: TOP CINEMAGIA 2004 - Clasament final

Eram sigur ca "Eternal Sunshine..." o sa castige, dar sunt de parere ca nu era cazul. L-am inclus si eu in topul meu, dar "Dogville" si "Elephant" mi se par de departe cele mai bune filme ale anului acesta. In rest, topul nu-mi prea place in unele locuri. "21 Grams" e un film bun, la fel si "Collateral", dar nici unul nu m-a impresionat. Iar "Lost In Translation"... nu stiu ce ati vazut atatia la filmul asta. Totusi, cinci dintre filmele alese de mine apar in top, deci nu ma pot declara dezamagit. Pacat ca "Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban" a urcat numai pe locul 18.
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 22:02   #10
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eu eram sigur c-o sa castige kill bill. in fine, am 6 filme in top. daca era harry potter, aveam 7, dar ce sa faci, au intrat mediocrele lotr si elephant.

iar 'eternal sunshine of the bla bla bla' a castigat fara ca multora sa le placa. probabil si-au spus:''mama, asta fu marfa, daca-l pun in fata lu' lotr, astia de la cinemagia o sa zica ca stiu filme si c-am facut o alegere buna''.
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 22:53   #11
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ce sa zic? vreo 35 de cinemagisti (+ Jay, care n-a auzit "apelul") care puncteaza in limitele bunului-gust... in rest - tristete, adica prostie ubicua si multa... asta e!
bine ca filmele indicate de mine au prins topul ori s-au clasat pe locuri fruntase. se cheama ca am schitat aici, mai multi, o solidaritate a valorii...
mai constat ca am avut cu acest prilej cateva triste revelatii... si asta e!
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1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - 421 puncte
n-o fi al mai bun, dar cert e un film d top 10
si asta e f bine
nu gasesc ca a fost pus la snobism; adik e un film care poate fi "vazut" in multe feluri
2. Dogville - 401
aici ar cam intra acuzatiile de snobism, daca e musai sa existe
3. 21 grams - 375
votat masiv de romanticii depresivi ai forumului; asta e, daca nu povestea, macar imaginea si actorii sunt impecabile
4. Kill Bill vol. 1 - 316
de ce dracu o fi fost pus separat?????
daca erau KBv1+KBv2 erau500 si ceva d voturi si dadea o mare rusine cu capsuni lui eternal sunshine
no use crying over spilt milk, though
5. Lost in Translation - 271
total de acord
6. Kill Bill vol. 2 - 229
hm.... da tre sa admit ca am preferat, totusi vol1
7. Lord of the Rings 3 - 205
nemernicia necesara; un pc game in top
LUUUUNg, penibil, fara pic de vlaga ca regie si totalmente lipsit de "actori"
8. Elephant - 149
frumos da overrated ca intentii si finalitati
l-as fi plasat, totusi in top 20
9. Big Fish - 143
desi nu l-am vazut, ma bucura faptu ca admiratorii lu burton mai exista dupa jegu d planeta maimutelor
10. Collateral - 124
am mai zis banalitate bine facuta...ma deranjeaza cam la fel d mult ca lotr3, da nu toate filmele tre sa fie originale

11. The Village - 123
o mare surpriza PLACUTA
12. Mystic River - 106
indiscutabil best of eastwood, da neplacut mie
poate pt ca am citit cartea
13. The Incredibles - 85
in lipsa de triplete sau nemo, o animatie reprezentativa
14. The Terminal - 76
spitbag+retarded hanks fura o poveste adevarata si fac o comedioara
15. Spiderman 2 - 70
banuiesc ca macar pt ladyskar il voi tolera, altceva nu e d facut cu asemenea chestie in top20
16. Good Bye Lenin - 68
cam contrafacuta nostalgia, dupa parerea mea
17. Reconstruction - 68
ar trebui sa inverseze pozitiile cu 21 d grame
18. Harry Potter 3 - 63
cahhhh
19. Apocalypse Now Redux - 51
underrated masterpiece
20. Garden State - 45
daca nu ar avea finalul ala penibil si conformist....
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Old 03 Jan 2005, 23:55   #13
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@leonard
dac a fost frauda, ma declar de acord
fara re-numarari ale voturilor, ca poate se gonfleza vreo aroganta filmica
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pe scurt, cred ca e reprezentativ
dogville si spiderman2
21 d grame si apocalypse now redux
lost in translation si (INAINTEA LU) lotr3
sometimes there iz justice in dis world
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Originally Posted by KORBEN:
20. Garden State - 45
daca nu ar avea finalul ala penibil si conformist....

Nu sunt deloc de acord... Zic ca merita filmul asta macar un loc 11, daca nu mai mult. Pacat...

Iar eu zic ca finalul este 'genial', in felul in care o ia pe cursul finalulilor mai ne-hollywood-iene dar ajunge la concluzia ca: "it's bullshit", love that and agree with it :happy:

In rest, topul mi se pare foarte ok, desi 21 grams merita mai mult un 6-7 decat 3. But, it's no biggie.
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Originally Posted by Leonard:
mda. Eternul JEG. cînd o sã am chef, cred cã o sã fac o numãrãtoare paralelã. mie îmi miroase a fraudã electoralã. Sunt siktirit.

Chiar te rog sa numeri totul inca o data. Eu am facut-o de 2 ori, mi-a luat 3 ore, si sint sigur ca nu am gresit nici un punct.
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Old 04 Jan 2005, 09:38   #16
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Filme care au meritat anul asta:

Dogville-LVT si apogeul Dogmei.
Imi pare rau ca a renuntat omul la proiectul filmului porno cu Deneuve. :oops:

21 grams-Inarritu si ramasitele "Montajului atractiilor"

Kill Bill 1-stilizare marca Tarantino? :shock: ,partea a 2-a a fost dezamagitoare.

Invaziile Barbare-Canadienii si ramasitele culturii franceze peste ocean.Ma asteptam sa fie mai sus in top.

Elephant-munca unui regizor inconstant,totusi un film bun.

Ma mira faptul ca Patimile lui Mel Gibson nu au prins un loc mai sus.

In rest,sanatate si virtute!
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Originally Posted by christi:
Originally Posted by Leonard:
mda. Eternul JEG. cînd o sã am chef, cred cã o sã fac o numãrãtoare paralelã. mie îmi miroase a fraudã electoralã. Sunt siktirit.

Chiar te rog sa numeri totul inca o data. Eu am facut-o de 2 ori, mi-a luat 3 ore, si sint sigur ca nu am gresit nici un punct.

am numãrat la primele 3 filme. clasamentul rãmîne ca la tine, se pare, dar diferenþa nu e atît de mare (oricum, tot fraudã se cheamã):
Eternal Sunshine 413
Dogville 401
21 Grams 378

Interesant de precizat de cîte ori a fost acordat primul loc pt fiecare dintre cele trei:
Dogville 13
Et Su 7
21 Grams 6
Asta spune multe. Majoritatea celor care au vãzut Dogville l-au pus pe primul loc, cei care nu l-au pus în top, înseamnã cã nu l-au vãzut.
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Sunt de acord cu Korben, cã KB1 ºi KB2 adunate dau peste 500 p deci Kill Bill e adevãratul cîºtigãtor.
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..pacat de ce s-a pierdut in traducere...
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Originally Posted by Leonard:
Sunt de acord cu Korben, cã KB1 ºi KB2 adunate dau peste 500 p deci Kill Bill e adevãratul cîºtigãtor.

Ma rog, KB1 si KB2 trebuiai luate ca un singur film...
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