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Old 21 Jan 2010, 12:49   #1
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Originally Posted by Chambord:
Faptul ca "A serious man" a fost ignorat la Globurile de Aur (ar fi putut sa castige la best comedy, best drama, best director, best screenplay ... u name it) e o dovada in plus, clara si trista, pt cat de comerciale si de penibile aceste premii au ajuns.

Incep cu adevarat sa cred ca atit Globurile cit si Oscarurile au devenit un fief al mediocritatii (cu foarte putine exceptii). Cel putin o sa stim una si buna: cu cit ia mai multe premii un film la galele respective, cu atit e mai de kkt... Macar ne salveaza de la a intreba in stinga sau dreapta cite parale face...
Sa vezi daca era regizat de Spielberg, in cheia lui lacrimogena, cu niste viori si citiva copii plini de cacat care sa misune prin cadru, cum veneau nominalizarile si premiile...
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 12:52   #2
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Windom, inocenta ta e de-a dreptul incantatoare!!!

Cand au fost Globurile si Oscarurile altceva?! Acum 30 de ani?

Vrei valoare intr-un premiu? Ia drept barometrul Cannes-ul (si acolo cum grano salis).
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 12:58   #3
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Windom, inocenta ta e de-a dreptul incantatoare!!!

Cand au fost Globurile si Oscarurile altceva?! Acum 30 de ani?

Vrei valoare intr-un premiu? Ia drept barometrul Cannes-ul (si acolo cum grano salis).

Imi amintesc cu nostalgie de inceputul anilor '90 (Dances with Wolves, Forrest Gump, The English Patient), parca exista un pic de decenta si bun simt in acordarea premiilor. Dupa momentul Titanic s-a dus totul dracului (din nou, cu citeva exceptii).
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 15:35   #4
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Originally Posted by Windom:

Imi amintesc cu nostalgie de inceputul anilor '90 (Dances with Wolves, Forrest Gump, The English Patient), parca exista un pic de decenta si bun simt in acordarea premiilor.

Mmm, eu unul nu le-as da exemplu pe astea ca filme reusite care au luat Oscar.
Titanicul, cel putin, e peste fiecare din astea 3.
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 15:39   #5
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Nici, nici...

Din 79, de la Vanator, au fost numai vreo 4 "accidente" - Amadeus, Mieii, Unforgiven si No Country.
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 15:41   #6
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Aaaa, o iau ca pe o provocare
Ia sa ma uit si eu pe castigatori sa vedem care au fost alegerile reusite lately.
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Originally Posted by Chambord:
Originally Posted by Windom:

Imi amintesc cu nostalgie de inceputul anilor '90 (Dances with Wolves, Forrest Gump, The English Patient), parca exista un pic de decenta si bun simt in acordarea premiilor.

Mmm, eu unul nu le-as da exemplu pe astea ca filme reusite care au luat Oscar.
Titanicul, cel putin, e peste fiecare din astea 3.


....sorry, nu m-am putut abtine...
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 15:46   #8
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as zice ca in ultimii 10 ani si The Departed si Crash si-au meritat premiile
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 15:47   #9
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Originally Posted by Windom:
Imi amintesc cu nostalgie de inceputul anilor '90 (Dances with Wolves, Forrest Gump, The English Patient)


scuze, si eu uitasem sa precizez !
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Te bat!!!

The Departed si Crash sunt niste prapaditi de epigoni. (Re)vezi trilogia Infernal Affairs si Short Cuts si sa vezi cum reconsideri
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Ce plm are Titanicul in plus fata de alte blockbustere catastrofa? O poveste siropoasa de kkt? Mina lui Kate pe geamul aburit? Acting a la Twilight?
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Pai stai putin. Asa 90 % din filmele pe care le consideram bune, nu sunt altceva decat niste "reluari" ale unor clasice.
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eu as pune pe lista si American Beauty

si as splita acest subiect la Oscaruri

ce ziceti? Filme care si-au meritat (sau NU) Oscarul
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Originally Posted by Im.Kino:
Te bat!!!

The Departed si Crash sunt niste prapaditi de epigoni. (Re)vezi trilogia Infernal Affairs si Short Cuts si sa vezi cum reconsideri

Si doar pentru ca sint "epigoni" le scade valoarea?
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Eu cred ca-i pe dos 90% din filmele pe care le consideram bune sunt cele originale, si 10% sunt remake-urile lor.


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Ab-so-lu-tely!
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Originally Posted by Windom:
Ce plm are Titanicul in plus fata de alte blockbustere catastrofa? O poveste siropoasa de kkt? Mina lui Kate pe geamul aburit? Acting a la Twilight?

Are emotie, tensiune, acel "bigger than life" spirit... chestii pe care Wolves, forrest si pacientu NU le au (sau sunt dezvoltate nesatisfacator)

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Old 21 Jan 2010, 15:53   #17
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Buna ideea lui Stefan cu topicul. Ca incep sa fierb in suc propriu...
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 15:58   #18
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Rapid, chiar! Ca am vreo doua de zis si despre American Beauty
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eram sigur!

si o sa ai si mai multe de zis cand o sa spun eu ca Up in the Air mi se pare, la un anumit nivel, un American Beauty "după zece ani"
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Asa... Dragutul de American Beauty, care voia el sa dea in viata de suburbie ("it's rotten, rotten I tell you!"), si sa infiereze tarele americanului mediu. Foarte frumos, daca o facea pana la capat, fara cazi de trandafiri si voice-over "asumat", basca un soi de morala cum ca fiecare primeste ceea ce merita (divine intervention, lol!). Asta in timp ce, cu un an mai devreme, Solondz facuse Happiness (cam acelasi lucru, dar cu curaj si mult mai subversiv). In ceea ce ma priveste, Mendes si-a spalat insulta de-abia anul trecut, cu Revolutionary Road...
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