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Old 25 Jul 2012, 22:08   #407
Redy
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Putea sa fie si martian, conteaza ce a facut nu ce s-a nascut. Mi se pare ca a fost unul dintre cei mai rai, daca nu cel mai rau. Au mai fost si altii prin Asia dar nu cunosc istoria zonei atat de bine in cat sa fac un top.

Lenin si Trotsky pot fi numiti ca reprezentanti ai comunismul mai mult decat Stalin, el doar l-a dus in extrem si a vrut putere astfel fiind mai usor de identificat prin crimele pe care le-a facut. Comunismul nu are la baza omorarea a milioane de oameni. Acel sistem nu a aparut din eter ci ca un raspuns a ceea ce se intampla atunci in Rusia, un regim care asuprea pe cei multi. Orice sistem este un raspuns la altul, asa merge lumea. Cine are in cap ideea cum ca acel sistem mai poate reveni la putere acum nu poate fi decat un caz de studiu pentru psihiatri.

Desi depaseste subiectul ia uite ce a facut Lenin pentru revenirea economica a statului: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy Nu era atat de tampit ca Stalin si totusi se declara ca si comunist desi avea o gandire diferita fata de Stalin.

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Lenin outlined his thoughts on the NEP in more detail in his article On Cooperation, published in January 1923:

From the point of view of the “enlightened” European there is not much left for us to do to induce absolutely everyone to take not a passive, but inactive part in cooperative operations. Strictly speaking, there is “only” one thing we have left to do and that is to make our people so “enlightened” that they understand all the advantages of everybody participating in the work of the cooperatives, and organizes participation. “only” the fact. There are now no other devices needed to advance to socialism. But to achieve this “only", there must be a veritable revolution—the entire people must go through a period of cultural development. Therefore, our rule must be: as little philosophizing and as few acrobatics as possible. In this respect NEP is an advance, because it is adjustable to the level of the most ordinary peasant and does not demand anything higher of him. But it will take a whole historical epoch to get the entire population into the work of the cooperatives through NEP. At best we can achieve this in one or two decades. Nevertheless, it will be a distinct historical epoch, and without this historical epoch, without universal literacy, without a proper degree of efficiency, without training the population sufficiently to acquire the habit of book reading, and without the material basis for this, without a certain sufficiency to safeguard against, say, bad harvests, famine, etc.—without this we shall not achieve our object.

In acelasi fel pentru ca exista o taxare progresiva (fie prin deductii sau nu) nu inseamna ca respectivele tari sunt comuniste. Dar cu cine dracu sa vorbesti despre asa ceva cand cei care se dau "de dreapta" sau "capitalisti" sunt doar o masa de prosti care au crezut in Basescu si unii inca mai cred. Niste idioti iar cu idioti nu poti face prea multe lucruri pentru ca se sperie usor de lucruri pe care nu le cunosc, iar ei nu cunosc foarte multe.
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