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Sunteti producator, vreti sa faceti un film.
Aveti avantajul ca puteti face cam orice, puteti alege pe oricine. Sa zicem, pentru inceput, ca aveti buget nelimitat (putem juca mai tarziu si o varianta a jocului cu un buget limitat).

Alegeti subiectul - ca sa fie mai simplu, ecranizarea unei carti.

Alegeti echipa: scenarist, regizor, operator. Puteti lua pe oricare din numele mari ale lumii.

Faceti casting: cine joaca in rolul cui. La fel, puteti lua orice vedeta.

Alegeti locurile unde filmati.

... si asa mai departe, pana iese filmul.

Dupa care, va ocupati de promovarea lui: tagline, afise, trailere etc.

Apoi criticii va asteapta la colt sa va desfiinteze.

mai departe nu stiu, mai improvizam, mai inventam pe parcurs.

O data la cinci posturi sa zicem, careva are voie sa vina cu o problema care pune bete in roate productiei: actorul s-a imbolnavit, sau nu ati obtinut aprobarea sa filmati undeva, sau s-a terminat pelicula, s-a stricat aparatul. Inventati voi ceva.

Hai, faceti filmul ideal!

Cine se baga producator are dreptul sa-si aleaga alti 2 useri care sa-l ajute. Ceilalti dau sugestii, sustin o directie sau alta, fluiera, fac atmosfera. Asta va conta la succesul final al filmului (poate facem un poll).

Hai sa punem o restrictie: echipa sa poata fi alcatuita numai din forumisti. Avem voie sa aducem numai 3 extracomunitari.

care echipa? regizor, operator, scenograf?
hm, ar fi cam ciudat.

sau poate nu inteleg eu despre ce echipa vorbesti: de cei 2 pe care-i iei sa te ajute? evident ca-s forumisti.

lipsesc o vreme, dati-i bataie cu productia.

Ce topic nimerit, chiar ieri ma gandeam cum ar fi un film despre Richey James Edwards :D In rolul principal Cillian Murphy, dar in rest nu m-am hotarat inca.

Da, man, echipa, sefii de departamente. Si putem aduce numai 3 stranieri. Actorii pot fi oricare, romani sau straini, vedete sau nu, chiar si forumisti sau prieteni si cunostinte care ar accepta sa le fie postate mutrele pe forum.

Culmea, si eu ma gandisem la ce ai spus tu atunci referitor la un film despre MSP, si chiar ma gandisem la Cillian, dar in rolul lui Nicky Wire. Parca seamana un pic... Mie Nicky imi place mai mult.:)

hai, mai cu curaj. :!!

primul pas, alegeti subiectul: ce carte vreti sa ecranizati?

dupa aia vine de la sine

Orson Scott Card, Vorbitor in numele mortilor

catcher in the rye :)) ca tot nu vrea salinger sa dea drepturile. sa-i facem in ciuda.

eu votez cu salinger.

Putem sa-l inviem pe River Phoenix si sa-l punem in rolul lui Holden?

Iata lista tuturor personajelor in ordinea aparitiei, pe capitole.

Apropo de capitole, il luam pe Lars Von Trier? Ca el are obiceiul sa isi structureze frumos filmele pe capitole.
Chapter One

Holden Caulfield
Sixteen years old. Six feet two with a shock of gray hair. Very immature but can act older than his age. (But no one notices.) Our narrator. Loves children. Hates phonys.

D.B. Caulfield
Holden's older brother. Served in the army. A writer. Author of "the Secret Goldfish". Now a prostitute for Hollywood (1).

Selma Thurmer
Daughter of Pency's headmaster. Sat next to Holden on the bus. Not very pretty. "She was a pretty nice girl, though" (3).

Robert Tichner and Paul Campbell
Holden's friends at Pency. Threw the football around until after dark. Didn't want to stop. But eventually, they had to (5).

Mr. Zambesi
Made Holden, Paul, and Robert stop throwing the football around (5).

Mrs. Spencer
Mr. Spencer's wife. She likes Holden, he thinks (7).

Chapter Two

Mr. Spencer
Holden's History teacher at Pency. Holden visits him before leaving school. He flunks Holden and reads his essay on "the Egyptians" aloud as an explanation. He smells like Vicks Nose Drops and is a bad throw. "Life is a game, boy" (8).

Mr. & Mrs. Caulfield
Holden's parents. Mr. Caulfield is a businessman. Mrs. Caulfield doesn't sleep well. She's still traumatized over Allie. "They're grand people" (9).

Mr. Haas
Headmaster at the Elkton School. One of the phoniest bastards Holden ever met (13).

Chapter Three
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Mr. Thurmer
Pency Prep Headmaster. Phony. When Marsalla let one rip in chapel everyone pretended they didn't hear it. "But you could tell he heard it" (17).

Ossenburger
Pency alumnus who made a fortune opening funeral homes. Gave a speech in the Pency chapel. Talked to Jesus, asking Him to send a few more stiffs (17).

Edgar Marsalla
Holden's friend at Pency. Let one rip during Ossenburger's speech that " damn near blew the roof off" (17).

Robert Ackley
Ackley kid. Roomed next to Holden at Pency. No one liked him. Nosey and dirty. Holden took him along into town to be nice. Bad skin and bad teeth that "always looked mossy and awful" (19).

Walt Stradlater
Holden's roomate at Pency. Handsome and shallow. Asks Holden to write his composition for him and goes on a date with Jane Gallagher. Holden and Stradlater have a fist-fight. He was a friendly guy but "it was partly a phony kind of friendly (26).

Chapter Four

Mr. Hartzell
Holden and Stratlader's English teacher. He thinks that Holden's a "hot-shot in English" (28).

Howie Coyle
Pency basketball player. Ackley thinks he has a "perfect build" (29).

Jane Gallagher
Stradlater's date and Holden's childhood friend. His image of frozen perfection. A major character in the book, without ever appearing in it. When she and Holden played checkers she would never move her kings out of the back row (31).

Chapter Five

Mal Brossard
Pency wrestler who goes into town to get a burger and maybe catch a movie with Holden and (relunctantly) Ackly (35).

Allie Caulfield
Holden's younger brother who died three years earlier of leukemia. Bright, sensitive, and exceptional. Wrote poetry on his baseball mitt. "You'd have liked him" (38).

Chapter Six

Ed Banky
The basketball coach at Pency. Stradlater was one of his "pets" so he let Stradlater borrow his car to go on his date with Jane Gallagher (43).

Chapter Seven
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Ely
Ackley's absent roomate (49).

Frederick Woodruff
Pency student who buys Holden's typewriter for twenty dollars (52).

Chapter Eight

Mrs. Morrow
Ernest Morrow's mother. Attractive woman. Holden meets her on the train from Agerstown to New York City. He lies to her to spare her feelings concerning her son. Holden also tells her that he has a brain tumor (54).

Ernest Morrow
A classmate of Holden at Pency. Although Holden tells his mother that he is popular but sensitive, in actuality he is "doubtless the biggest bastard that ever went to Pency" and "about as sensitive as a goddam toilet seat"(54).

Rudolph Schmidt
The janitor of Holden's dorm. Holden assumes his name during his conversation with Mrs. Morrow (54).

Chapter Nine

Phoebe Caulfield
Holden's ten-year-old sister. Very smart and perceptive girl. Roller-skate skinny with red hair. She likes to write girl books that she never finishes. Affectionate and emotional (59).

Carl Luce
Classmate of Holden's at the Whooton School. He meets Holden at Ernie's for drinks. Very mature. Dates a Chinese woman in her late thirties. Knows a lot about perverts (59).

First Cabbie
Takes Holden to the Edmont Hotel. Holden asks him about where the Central Park ducks go in the winter. (60).

Edmont Bellboy
Depressing, very old guy who combed his hair in a sweep to cover his baldness. (61).

Edmont Hotel Perverts
The transvestite dressing up in front of the mirror (61).
The girl who was getting water squirtted all over her face (62).

Ann Louise Sherman
A girl that Holden once necked with all night even though she was a big phoney (63).

Eddie Birdsell
A Princeton guy that Holden met at a party. He gave Holden Faith Cavindish's number for a "good time" (64).

Faith Cavendish
A former burlesque stripper or something. Holden calls her from the Edmont to try to set up a date. But it's too late. She calls him "Mr. Cawffle" (64).

Chapter Ten
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Marty, Laverne, and Bernice Crabs or Krebs
Three girls that Holden meets in the Lanender Room. Tourists from Seattle. He dances with Bernice Crabs or Krebs. They spend their time looking for movie stars (like Peter Lorre) and then stick Holden with the check (69).

Chapter Eleven

Mr. Cudahy
Jane Gallagher's mother's husband. A hint of abuse. He was a "booze-hound" (78).

Ernie
Piano player and owner of Ernie's nightclub. Good player but a big phoney (80).

Chapter Twelve

Horwitz (Second Cabbie)
Drives Holden from the Lavender Room to Ernie's. Holden asks him where the Central Park ducks go in the winter (81).

Lillian Simmons
Former girlfriend of D.B., Holden runs into her at Ernie's. Marvellous! (86)

Commander Blop
Navy guy with Lillion Simmons. He breaks four of your fingers just shaking hands (87).

Chapter Thirteen

Raymond Goldfarb
Holden's friend at the Whooton School. They got drunk together once in chapel. Raymond got very drunk but Holden only got very cool and nonchalant. He did puke, but he forced himself to (90).

Maurice
Edmont elevator operator/pimp. Sends "a girl" up to Holden's room for "a good time". After agreeing upon a price, Maurice wants more. Holden has a fist-fight with him but he doesn't stand a chance (90).

Sunny
Young prostitute sent to Holden's room. Shallow, uneducated, and all-business. Holden and Sunny only talk. This is five. It costs ten. Holden assumes the alias of Jim Steele with Sunny. She calls him "crum-bum" (93).

Chapter Fourteen

Bobby Fallon
Holden's friend in Maine when he was younger. One day, Holden refused to take Allie with him to Bobby Fallon's house because Allie was just a child (98).

Arthur Childs
Classmate at the Whooton School. Quaker. He and Holden talked about the Bible. They disagreed (99).

Chapter Fifteen
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Sally Hayes
Holden's old girlfiend. Sally is very interested in the theater. Very affected. They go on a date to see a play and then go skating at Radio City. Holden asks her to run away with him and then calls her names. She has a Christmas tree in need of trimming (105).

Dick Slagle
Holden's roomate at Elkton Hills School. They shared a room with their suitcases. Holden's were bourgeois(108).

The Two Nuns
Holden meets them in the sandwich bar. One is an English teacher. They discuss "Romeo and Juliet" over eggs. Holden gives them ten dollars as a contribution (109).

Chapter Sixteen

Mrs. Hayes
Sally Hayes' crazy mother. Holden talks to her on the phone when he's drunk. She likes her ass kissed (114).

Estelle Fletcher
Singer of "Little Shirley Beans" (114).

The Family on Broadway
Poor looking family walking up Broadway. Father, mother and six-year old boy who was skipping from the curb into the street and back again. The boy's parents ignored him. The traffic didn't. He was singing "If a body catch a body coming through the rye" (115).

Phoebe's Schoolmate
Holden finds her sitting by herself. Asks if she knows who and where Phoebe is. She has trouble with her skate key. Holden doesn't (118).

Miss Aigletinger
Holden's grammar school teacher in New York. She often took the class to the Museum of Natural History. "She never got sore" (120).

Gertrude Levine
Holden's partner during excursions to the Museum of Natural History. She liked to hold sweaty hands (120).

Chapter Seventeen

Harris Macklin
Holden roomed with him for two months at Elkton Hills. He was a bore with a very raspy voice. But he could whistle great. Holden never told him he thought he was a great whistler (123).

George "Something"
Phoney Andover snob who Sally Hayes knew. She spotted him during her date with Holden. Thought the Lunts were "Angels". Big soul kisses (127).

Chapter Eighteen

Al Pike
Some guy that Jane Gallagher once dated. Wore white Latex swimming trunks. "Show-off bastard" (135).

Wolf Lady and Her Son
Pair that Holden sees in the movie theater. She cries all through the movie but won't let her little boy go to the bathroom. "Kindhearted as a goddam wolf" (139).

Chapter Ninteen

Tina and Janine
Two French babes who performed at the Wicker Bar. One played piano and the other sang in half English and half "Vooly Voo Fransay" (141).

Chapter Twenty
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Valencia
Performer at the Wicker Bar. Opening act for Tina and Janine. Holden gives her the eye and instructs the headwaiter to ask Velencia to join him for a drink. He doesn't (149).

Flitty Guy at the Wicker Bar
Holden mocks him to Carl Luce. Later, in the men's room he advises Holden to go home because Holden is so drunk.

Chapter Twenty One

The Dicksteins
The Caulfield's neighbors. Holden pretends to be their nephew to the new elevator boy in order to sneak into his parent's apartment (157).

Chapter Twenty Two

Veteran's Day Visitor
Old Pency alumnus who knocked on the door of Holden's dorm to ask for directions to the bathroom. Holden and Stradlater walked him there so that he could check for his initials that he carved ninety years ago. The Ghost of Christmas Future (168).

James Castle
Classmate at Elkton Hills. His name was next to Holden's at roll call. He refused to take back something that he said. Jumped out of a window (?) and died. Holden heard him land and saw him dead (170).

Stabile
Elkton Hills boy who was insulted by James Castle. He and six of his friends tried to force James Castle to take back what he has said (170).

Mr. Antolini
Former English teacher at Elkton Hills. He was the one who finally picked up the body of James Castle. Holden retreats to his house and recieves a long lecture. Plans to stay there until Tuesday, but while Holden is sleeping Mr. Antolini begins to pet him. Flitty. Likes to drink (173).

Chapter Twenty Four

Lillian Antolini
Mr. Antolini's wife. Lots of money. About sixty years older than Mr. Antolini. Likes to kiss in public. Never in the same room as Mr. Antolini (180).

Richard Kinsella
Holden's classmate at Pency They took Oral Expression together. Shy boy. easily flustered. Got a "D" in the class because they kept on yelling "Digression!" at him (183).

Mr. Vinson
Taught Oral Expression at Pency. "Kept telling you to unify and simplify all the time" (185).

Chapter Twenty Five
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Two Bruddas
Two boys Holden meets in the Metropolitan Museum. They're skipping school. They ask Holden where the mummies are kept. They go together, sticking close to Holden. One does all of the talking, the other "don't feel like it". They leave Holden in the tomb (202).

Chapter Twenty Six

Psychoanalyst Guy
A Psychoanalyst at the California hospital. Keeps on asking Holden if he's going to apply himself. "It's a stupid question" (213).

English Babe
Actress who comes with D.B. to visit Holden. "She's pretty affected" (213).

Nu, nu Lars Von Trier, ar trebui un american. Eu i-as lua pe Wes Anderson sau Gus Van Sant.

Dar de Sofia Coppola ce parere aveti?

e cam superficiala :P lui Holden nu i-ar fi placut de ea.

Superficiala? De ce? Mie Lost in Translation mi s-a parut o bijuterie de film!

Lost in Translation si mie mi-a placut, dar alelalte doua sunt total neconvingatoare. Pana nu vine cu inca un Lost in Translation eu am dubii in privinta ei.

Poate un Catcher in the Rye?

Sofia sa fie. Sa pariem pe ea. Sa avem incredere, tovarasi! (unde nu mai stie, poate il intreaba pe Francis)

Nu investesc. :D

Tov. Judex are alta propunere?

Get me a real director. Maybe her father.

Dintre ai vechi eu i-as pune pe Milos Forman sau Louis Malle, din astialalti, Michel Gondry sau Gus van Sant.
Sam Mendes?

How about Richard Linklater?

ala cu scoala de rock? :-/
nu stiu daca se pricepe la fineturile din catcher in the rye.

M.am razgandit. Il luam pe Sam Mendes, k.mi place de nevasta.sa. La nebunie.

Chambord, cred ca ar trebui sa-ti asumi rolul de producator si sa te apuci de "Catcher In The Rye".

alege regizor, un scenarist sa-ti transpuna romanul, director de imagine, cateva vedete pt rolurile principale (nu toata distributia, evident) si asa mai departe.

Nefacand parte din showbiz nu cunosc detaliile procesului de productie dar sunt sigur ca sunt pe forum destui care lucreaza in bransa si ne-ar putea ajuta, pe cate un segment.

Eu o sa fac un credit la CAR, mai iau din pensia lu bunica si o sa pun si eu ceva bani ca sa putem sa demaram procesul creativ. Bineinteles, ca orice om care marca si el un banutz am si ceva pretentii:

1. NU il puneti pe Shia Le Boeuf in rolul principal ca fac hemoragie !! Emile Hirsch ar merge ?
2. Gus Van Sant ar fi o idee buna de director, a demonstrat cu varf si indesat ca stie sa faca filme bune cu teenageri. Sau daca el nu vrea atunci Godard si il turnam direct in franceza.
3. Vedeti ce faceti sa primeasca si Megan Fox / Sasha Grey un rol (cat mai mare si cu cat mai multa miscare)
4. Vreau sa vad niste sex de buna calitate nu prostii si mimetisme ca publicul e mai dajtept k noi si se prinde imediat !

Mai vb. Dati drumu la treaba poate prindem Canu la anu

Ai uitat sa specifici pe cine iei in echipa.!

ioi, nu iau eu pe nimeni ca nu sunt shefu. E un proiect colectiv. Oricine vrea e binevenit. Fara lideri ! Cu ocazia asta verificam si daca functioneaza societatea fara Conducator :)) Sau daca cineva chiar insista sa tina carma, ok, i don't mind. :P

5. Apropo de Joseph Goedon-Levitt, nu se poate si cu el? :)

ba da, si el e B-)

As putea sa fiu eu asistenta personala? Fiecare producator/regizor/scenarist/whatever are un asistent/asistenta personala. May I be her? May I? May I ? I can type, and I speak english (hell, I even teach it) si sunt buna la convins oamenii sa faca ce nu prea vor.
So, do we have a deal, or not?

P.S. Did I mention I'm blonde?

Daca se va filma in Romania, eu vreau sa fiu ghidul lui Joseph. Si daca vor fi in echipa si Christian Bale si Steve Buscemi ar fi MINUNAT!!! <:-P

oh fu...shit ! :-O daca sihaya e secretara :"> atunci ma ofer eu regizor (damn, i don't have a clue what i should do :-? the director is the guy who sits in a chair and yells at people, right ? i sure hope so. I can do that. I CAN DO THAT ! Sa nu uit sa repet diseara in oglinda faza asta de vreo 10 ori si gata sunt regizor B-) ). Me gonna have a blonde PA yeaaaaaaaaah .... oh NO stop .... stop it right there ... i'm married, wtf am i thinkin ? :D and she's teaching english too :)

ia-ti cate blonde vrei (si vor)
da nu va indepartati de proiect, Catcher in the rye, ok? Ce secvente de sex? Din cate-mi amintesc, putea fi doar una cand ia o prostituata la hotel, dar nu se lasa cu actiune ci cu niste pumni in cap si extorcare de la pestele ei. Se mai frickyfricky cineva in cartea aia? :-/
Christian Bale si Steve Buscemi pot aparea, dar specificati pe ce roluri.

@Cahambord: I'm not THAT KIND of p.a.


Am vb cu Steve Buscemi, si a zis k ar fi interesat sa joace rolul lui Mr. Spencer, dc i se da o actrita draguta (si mai tanara) pe post de sotie. Si dc cecul va avea inscrise numerele corecte. Acu'... nu sunt eu factorul de decizie. Sa se hotarasca producatorul. Si sa.mi transmita si mie cine este regizorul, k ma intreaba lumea si nu stiu ce sa spun.


Si inca cv. Joseph ma bate la cap k vrea rolul lui D.B. Caulfield. Sa.l pun sa dea un screen test?
Si as putea sa.l abordez pe Christian Bale, sa.l intreb daca are timp sa joace rolul tatalui, Mr. Caulfield.
Damn, what possessed me to ask to be PA.? It seems I'm doing all the hard work, and he's gonna get all the credit.

@Chambord : N.ar fi mai bine sa fii producator? K aia au toata puterea (banului) de decizie (mai nou). Regizorul e cu puterea creatoare.

@Sihaya
Cum saracie sa joace Christian Bale rolul tatalui lui Joseph Gordon Levitt???
Mai degraba l-as vedea pe Steve Buscemi in rolul lui Mr. Caulfield, ii sta foarte bine in costume elegante. Iar in rolul mamei ar merge Jodie Foster.

nu zic ba. mi-ar place sa-i zic regizorului:

pei vez uai ca nu asa si fashi uai ? stai si ti invatz io cum si filmeazi pi minunatili plaiuri ali noastri moldovineshti, io dau banu fashi cum zic io. uai rejizore da tu chiar vrei si ti palesc amu pisti kapatzana ?

Pot sa joc eu rolul CNC-ului? :D

Tentativa de traducere:
Pai vezi ca nu asa si faci [uai?]? Stai si ti-i invat eu cum se filmeaza pe minunatele plaiuri ale noastre moldovenesti, eu dau banul, faci cum zic eu. [Uai] regizore, dar tu chiar vrei sa te palesc acum peste capatana?

Uai e un apelativ? Credeam ca va strigati bre. :D

Please! Unde are Buscemi fata comerciala! Si oricum nu vrea rolul tatalui, mi.a spus el. Ii place istoria f.f.f. mult, intotdeauna si.a dorit sa fie profesor de istorie (da' viata a hotarat altcv ptr el). Si dc omu' a spus da, d c sa.l contrazicem? Il luam.
Dc. nu ti place Bale ptr rolul tatalui, alege pe altcineva.
Cat despre Jodie Foster, cine n.ar vrea.o intr.un film? Cine n.ar vrea.o oricum? Dar dupa rolurile de femeie dura din ultima vreme, crezi k ar vrea sa joace o alcoolica plangacioasa?

uai se foloseste la tzara, in loc de bai / fai
bre e deja universal, a trecut granitzele regiunii ... now we have forum users with that name :P

Screen test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzX9jHB3LfA&feature=fvst

A spus ca vrea sa se implice in proiect daca are legatura cu mine.

Si vroia sa stie daca nu e bagat si Godard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsJGZ4bKHZA

Pai, vb cu producatorul. Zi.i k Joseph nu vine, decat dc esti si tu implicata in proiect. Am sa.i explic d.lui Chambord k Joseph in rolul lui D.B. ar fi un MARE plus ptr film.

Pai n-am spus ca ma bag? Vreau sa il asist pe Chambord si sa fiu hostess pentru Chris, Joe si Steve. :P

Pai ori asisti producatorul executiv, ori esti hostess?

No offense, kiddo! Am fost aici inainte. I am the producer's personal assistent.