si mie mi-a disparut un post de ieri, si nu era cu nici o injuratura....so we're even... :P

Da, de i-ar disparea toate mesajele lui Nume ar fi o binecuvantare...

voi chiar o cautatzi cu lumanarea...
stiti k o sa va faca ciuda si o sa mai posteze... potolitzi-va si voi ...

Sunteti varza, adio dar raman cu voi, sau pe irakiana :

"
اللاجئون العراقيون .. صفحة المحنة الاخيرة تتطلع لامال العودة

مما لا شك فيه ان الحدث الابرز الذي ما زال العراقيون يعيشون نشوته هو خلاصهم من اعتى الانظمة الديكتاتورية والقمعية في تاريخهم الحديث رغم الشوائب التي كدرت صفو تلك الفرحة وعلى رأسها احتلال بلدهم من قبل القوات الاميركية والبريطانية.
ورغم قصر المدة التي عشناها منذ ان سقط الطاغية وحتى الان وهي اقل من شهر الا ان الواقع العراقي بكل ابعاده السياسية والاجتماعية والاقتصادية والامنية والخ تكشف امام العالم مثل كتاب مفتوح يحار المرء المذهول امام مفاجآته أي من فصول المحنة وابواب الكوارث المختلفة والمتعددة الجوانب يكون هو المقدم على غيره والاولى لمن يهمه الامر بتقديمه على طاولة المناقشة والبحث وايجاد الحلول المناسبة والمرضية له."

@Gaandalf : good point. 8)

Contradictie...

" doua drame romantice (“Despartirea” cu Russell Crowe si Salma Hayek si “Adio, dar raman cu tine” cu Richard Dreysfuss)" ;)

sau : Adio draga Nela si Angela merge mai departe, doua filme romanesti f. proaste din anii "70.

Un topic de genul LOTR nu moare asa usor mai ales cand i se imprima si cate o initiativa care sa puna la munca mintile si timpul fanilor intr-o directie constructiva-de ex un Revised Middle Earth Compendium sau specualatii asupra unor zone mai putin umblate sau contradictorii din cartile lui Tolkien si filmele lui Jackson.
Ma surprinde ca tocmai Demona care a fost unul din constructorii si promotorii threadului o da in disperare acum pentru ce? Pentru niste ineptii care vor exista tot timpul si cu care nici macar nu merita sa ne mai incarcam nervii. Inutil cu adevarat este sa le iei in considerare si sa te apuci sa le raspunzi..si aici sunt mai mult decat de acord cu Gaandalf. Ignorat timp de o luna, doua Nume ori se va plictisi ori he will join us.. :D ..that will be the day.. :lol:
Altfel nu cred ca sunt singurul care vede potential in acest thread ce are avantajul ca e local si ca in timp a atras destul de multi membri noi care chiar au ceva interesant de spus.

Daca zici tu...

Eu raman la cea mai tare speculatie care s-a nascut din aceasta opera a lui Tolkien : Cine este Tom Bombadil ?
Cred ca s-a mai discutat dar nu conteaza... subiectul este prea interesant sa nu fie dezvoltat si ptr userii noi - adik voi care nu ati apucat sa va dati cu parerea ...
join us ? :lol: :lol: :lol: Faenor you just made my day ... i laughed my ass off! :lol: Thank you!
He will join "us" when i get disconnected from the matrix ...

so ... Tom Bombadil ?

ورغم قصر المدة التي عشناها منذ ان سقط الطاغية وحتى الان وهي اقل من شهر الا ان الواقع العراقي بكل 'ابعاده

p.s.
Rugaminte : unde e site-ul ala cu limba hobitzilor, as dori sa va transcriu cateva randuri aici.

Limba care se vorbeste in Comitat a fost preluata de catre hobbiti de la Rohirrim. Astfel, nu exista diferente intre limba lor si cea a oamenilor. Ca doar nu sunt elfi!

ha ha! :lol:

decat sa se alature sa o dea numa' in aberatzii,mai degraba scrie nishte prostii dupa cum ii obiceiul;
i-au scazut drastic lungimea posturilor.nu o mai tine mult. stua inca shi ma itnreb cum de a tinut asha mult boschetareala asta a lui aici
el adik pare interesant...ca au mai fost care au facut la fel,dar vad ca el nu intelege nici o aluzie.chair daca ii sare in ochi

deci...tom bombadil is a maia master of Old Forest. Tom Bombadil was the Hobbit name for the powerful and eccentric master of the Old Forest. Called Iarwain Benadar, which means both "old" and "without father", by the Elves, he was probably a Maia spirit that came to Middle-earth in the Ages of Starlight. By Dwarves he was called Forn, while Men knew him as Orald. He was a very strange and merry spirit. He was a short, stout Man, with blue eyes, a red face and a brown beard. He wore a blue coat, a tall battered hat with a blue feather, and yellow boots. Always singing or speaking in rhymes, he seemed a nonsensical being, yet within the Old Forest his power was absolute, and no evil was strong enough to touch him. His spouse was Goldberry the River-daughter. Tom Bombadil played a role in the Quest of the Ring by twice rescuing the Hobbits who carried the Ring: first from Old Man Willow in the Old Forest, and later from the Barrow Wights in the Barrow Downs.

Cam asta e tot ce stiu despre tommy....(facand exceptie ceea de am citit in LOTR)

Good job, Smeag!

1. Pe pariu ?
2. Cand vine vorba de frodoletzi sunt mai insensibil la aluzii fine.

Propun un mic sondaj la botu' calului :
a) finlandeza
b) ceva araba (surprize noi)
c) romani

Ce sa fie ? :?
O sa vi le dau in tomuri mici, ca sa le puteti digera si deslusi pe indelete.

Iata un sfat: Niciodata sa nu te certi cu un idiot. Te injoseste pana ajungi ajungi la nivelul lui.

Fuck it !!! Incepe sa-mi para rau ca ma "cert" cu voi, sunteti prea multi. :D
Eu iau sectiunea asta de forum ca pe asociatiile diverse. Asociez pe un ton poliglot cu voi. Vorbim vorbe.
Hai ca aveati nevoie de o tulburare a apelor linistite, se cam depusese praful pe toba hobitilor.

p.s.
Eu tot traiesc cu impresia ca tu picasesi la montaj .....

Dai cu bata-n balta!

si PS: Nu mai trai cu impresii!

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Ca sa mai destindem atmosfera, iata ceva amuzant:

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This question has been a widely debated, sometimes far too vehemently. Part of the difficulty is the complexity of Tom's literary history. Tom was originally a doll (with blue jacket and yellow boots) owned by Tolkien's son Michael. The doll inspired a story fragment, such as he often invented for his children's amusement. That fragment was in turn the basis for the poem "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil", published in 1933, which also introduced Goldberry, the barrow wights, and Old Man Willow (the poem was the source of the events in Chapters 6 through 8 of Book I). In a contemporary letter (1937) Tolkien explained that Tom was meant to represent 'the spirit of the (vanishing) Oxford and Berkshire countryside'.
(The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, no 19)

Tolkien introduced Tom into The Lord of the Rings at a very early stage, when he still thought of it as a sequel to the The Hobbit, as opposed to the The Silmarillion (the tone was changed during the first chapters of The Lord of the Rings). Tom fit the original (slightly childish) tone of the early chapters (which resembled that of the The Hobbit), but as the story progressed it became higher in tone and darker in nature. Tolkien later claimed that he left Tom in he decided that however portrayed Tom provided a necessary ingredient (see last paragraph). Some very cogent reasons are produced in a couple of wonderful letters.
(The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, 144 & 153)

As to Tom's nature, there are several schools of thought.

He was a Maia (the most common notion). The reasoning here is plain: given the Middle-earth cast of characters as we know it, this is the most convenient pigeonhole in which to place him (and Goldberry as well) (most of the other individuals in The Lord of the Rings with "mysterious" origins: Gandalf, Sauron, Wizards, and Balrogs did in fact turn out to be Maiar).

He was Ilúvatar. The only support for this notion is on theological grounds: some have interpreted Goldberry's statement to Frodo (F: "Who is Tom Bombadil?" G: "He is.") as a form of the Christian "I am that am", which really could suggest the Creator. Tolkien rejected this interpretation quite firmly.

T.A. Shippey (in The Road to Middle-earth) and others have suggested that Tom is a one-of-a-kind type. This notion received indirect support from Tolkien himself:


"As a story, I think it is good that there should be a lot of things unexplained (especially if an explanation actually exists);
... And even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are. Tom Bombadil is one (intentionally)."
(The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, p. 174)
There are scattered references to other entities which seem to fall outside the usual picture. Whichever of these is correct, Tom's function inside the story was evidently to demonstrate a particular attitude towards control and power.

"The story is cast in terms of a good side, and a bad side, beauty against ruthless ugliness, tyranny against kingship, moderated freedom against compulsion that has long lost any object save mere power, and so on; but both sides in some degree, conservative or destructive, want a measure of control. But if you have, as it were taken 'a vow of poverty', renounced control, and take delight in things for themselves without reference to yourself, watching, observing, and to some extent knowing, then the question of the rights and wrongs of power and control might become utterly meaningless to you, and the means of power quite valueless."
(The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, p. 178).

Cam asta ar fi un rezumat al posibilelor identitati ale lui Tom. Sunt doar cele mai plauzible sugestii ca am mai citit si mai si....dar despre ele in episodul urmator... :lol: ...anyway as far as I am concerned as zice ca varianta cu Maiar ar fi cea care chiar da o explicatie logica, dar daca e sa fiu realist sunt mai mult decat convins ca Tolkien l-a introdus special atat ca pe un personaj "rezidual" adik favorit si deja cunoscut din alte precedente lucrari, cat si ca pe o "anomalie" in sensul de personaj care echilibreaza lupta dintre bine si rau....un fel de truly neutral (fanii D&D stiu de ce... :D ) un arbitru in functie de care se definesc binele si raul care au nevoie si ele la urma urmei de un referent.

ce te-am rugat eu Saruman ?
mi-a dat peste cap toata pagina... nu mai am chef sa citesc nimik ...
pune si tu linkurile...

dar inca nu se cearta nimeni aici...ci se enerveaza, sau mai bine spus ishi pun fiecare piedica unul la altu' sa nu ajungem sa iasa o cearta...roicum nu va ieshi bine din ea

Puneti rezolutia la monitor mai mare... sau cumpara un kil de net cu leu' ala greu

:lol:

Inca, corect spus. De preferat, noi practicam o tehnica numita trasul de sireturi... da....

eram sigur ca va face asta.numa' sa umple spatiul dejaba shi sa se incarce shi greu.dar la mine nu ii problema.am timp :P

ce vrei mah sa fac, daca mi-a placut poza .... :love:

doar iti dai seama ca nu vor rezista astea aici nu?!
pana maine seara maxim... :P

eu doar apreciam calitatea glumitei.

nu-i asha
intradevar ii chiar destul de reushita faza,ashi mai da shi eu un citat al ea,dar nu mai vad rostul.incepe sa se rasufle :P

intr-adevar

ete na ..uite cine-i profesor de romana.mai scapa omului o liniutza,un punct,o virgula,o litera shi lista continua.


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acum la topic...gandalfe tu shtii sa traduci din elfa prop!?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...sauronprez.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...alf_busted.jpg

http://www.aracnet.com/~ldv/shire420.jpg

1.mishto pozele
2.dude, pune linkurile ca ocupi prea mult spatiu...

Lasa ca se intampla sa posteze cineva poze o data la un an... nu va fie lene! Puneti mana pe mouse!

Saruman esti mai prost decat ... (ma asteptam).

Nu i prost ! Are dreptate...nu toti intra pe link.

mda ,dar gata s-a rezolvat :P
intre timp :
Ringleader
Jedi Master
Karate Elf
Disco King
Legolas Powers
Lord of the Elves
Men and their hair !!!
I wonder...
The Nine Ringwraits !!!

dintre care unele cred ca se shitiu deja.enjoy

battle
the ford of the rings
fetch
color
McD
kiss-of-death
instructions

hai ca astea sunt mult mai klumea,dar de ce ma chinui eu
datti next cand intrati pe link sa vedeti pozele. sunt unele super belea :)

You think you are wise, Mithrandir!

Care e treaba cu pozele? Nu sunt primite aici bine sau ce?

Multumesc...

Se pare ca cineva stie sa aprecieze intelepciunea...

ce te face sa spui asta!? :P

ASTA:

e.shi ai pus' botu de al asta.au fost mai rele.nu lua in seama.se referea ca adik nu vrei sa intelegi :D
(cred)

Doar el stia ce vrea sa spuna... Poate ne lumineaza si pe noi!

:lol: :lol: :lol: haha :lol: futere de tot pozele!! :lol:

nightsorrow nu stie dar cine intra pe acest topic se uita si la linkuri ... nu tre sa distrugi pagina si sa nu mai ma pot concentra sa citesc si sa racolezi in halul ala atentia lui nume care binenteles ca s-a luat de tine... si a inceput sa ejaculeze cu pozele tale imense pe topic.

chiar nu poti sa te abtii ?

wraith avea dreptate ... nu am nimic cu tine dar cand te cobori atat de jos ... si nu mai pot sa citesc nimic pe topicul asta ptr ca tre sa frec "mausul" din stanga in dreapta ptr k randul se intine muuuuult .... MA ENERVEZI!

din lista lui Wraith au fost super tari:
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http://groups.msn.com/LordoftheRings...& PhotoID=884

http://groups.msn.com/LordoftheRings...& PhotoID=885

http://groups.msn.com/LordoftheRings...& PhotoID=886

http://groups.msn.com/LordoftheRings...& PhotoID=888

http://groups.msn.com/LordoftheRings...& PhotoID=891

ha ha :lol: :lol: :lol: